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    Default Cleaning the metal seat backs (450) & general cleaning material questions?

    Just spent best part of 2 hours getting boxer dog hair (one trip to vet) hoovering the trunk / boot area carpet before the rest of the vehicle they migrated to...gah!

    Tomorrow I'll be cleaning down the rear crash protection seat backing (there's red rub staining & what-not there from when purchased).

    Whilst I will initially use a de-greasant like 151 branded gubbins, what is good for removing grot on those bumpy hammer painted seats & what should be avoided?

    Seeing as there is built up grot (skin, make-up & god knows what in the fabric of the door cloth i'm wondering also, what to use to remove some of the greyness & rejuvenate the fabric)?

    Also is there a cost effective touch up paint available for that finish or am I scuppered? likely a pram / buggy scrape through the paintwork to bare metal. (again not me).

    Update with the passenger side water ingress, it seems to have gone, (was always minor) since having replaced the rubber seal, *plfluged* everything etc..

    Driving nicely now "moo-mole" has done a whole 26,500 miles from new.

    Having a much needed tidy up this weekend which judging by my standards isn't up to much!

    I still haven't traced a well priced 450 boot cover, they seem rare as rocking horse what-not.
    Last edited by Mr Gus; 26th August 2019 at 08:59.
    Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse) 2003 "vintage" 45KW / 61 HP (M160/1)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    The only crash protection in those metal seat backs is in your head

    Later models without the metal panel got equal or better crash protection ratings and they had soft backs.


    Hammerite if you want to touch up Id guess
    fq101.co.uk

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    damn, I thought it would be hammerite,

    Doubt they do tester size pots though.

    Finally got round to fitting my lotus elise cover on (it was 15 on eBay for a decent branded one) as the pine free was oozing sap onto my freshly rain x 'ed windscreen, ...bit big but zipped door, clips overhang, breathable, door mirror pockets fit.
    Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse) 2003 "vintage" 45KW / 61 HP (M160/1)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    Later models were based on a completely different chassis which comes with completely different crash characteristics - which is why they didn't get the metal seatbacks.


    Do you honestly think Smart would have gone to the expense of fitting metal backs to the seats if they didn't think they were needed?

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    I think it was a selling point that a single occupant could use the car with the passenger seat folded to keep stuff on it. I wish my 451 had 450 seats, they were much better.

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    Yup, that's a massive loading benefit in a micro-car.

    allows a great deal of additional use (like it fits ski's, snowboard, smallish flat-pack crap from ikea) kid transporting own crap up to university ..etc.

    Can't understand why it ceased to be, ..if it's a case of seat material, you only need to fold out a cardboard box as a protector.

    without it it lessens the viability & versatility of the original concept.
    Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse) 2003 "vintage" 45KW / 61 HP (M160/1)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    I used our Vax carpet cleaner (with it's hand held nozzle) on the carpet, seats and door trims of my ForTwo alaong with a steam cleaner for the more stubborn stains and it came up like new.

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    They stopped fitting metal backs simply because they were unnecessary, added extra needless weight and an unnecessary build expense... loads of things were dropped on later models in a bid to shave money off the build.

    They were nice, but that's as far as they go
    fq101.co.uk

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    No, I mean the load characteristic of the completely forward folding seat (not the metal backing) ..or was I playing with levers incorrectly in a later smart model I encountered?


    Something I love on our a class is the removable rear seats, re-fitted in 30 seconds apiece, ..but heavy!
    Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse) 2003 "vintage" 45KW / 61 HP (M160/1)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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    Default Re: Cleaning the metal seat backs (450)

    Good call, I have a steam cleaner "somewhere" ..thanks
    Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse) 2003 "vintage" 45KW / 61 HP (M160/1)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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