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    Default Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Hi, introductions are due.

    Have always had a soft spot for the fortwo since the beginning, & at this late stage we saw & bought on impulse a smart city coupe 700cc, *semi*auto, petrol, black on black, alloys, panoramic roof, 2003 pulse with just a smidgen over 26k on the clock.
    Bodywork, appears to have little car wash swirling, a few light "touches" on drivers rear arch.
    2 keepers previously from new, basic grundig cd/ radio combi, (no code) no air-con.

    Seems standard, got her checked out by my excellent local agricultural engineering garage (who are not keen on Smarts as they are "buggers to get into" but checked her over & did a bit of work having bought blind, & having had her handed over to us we have now done around 100 miles (B roads) & all seems well.

    Have noted that "nanna" prefers & performs better on premium petrol (smoother engine through the gears), has the usual fix of tape for the rear trunk lid, & is leaking slightly along the passenger side bottom seal, all stuff I need to investigate.

    "Nanna" has a decent collection of genuine smart servicing & a few more bits & pieces from elsewhere

    Suffice to say we nipped to the wholesalers yesterday & the boot accommodated everything nicely (compared to a mini) which stifled the wife's initial insistence that we take the Nissan leaf.

    No idea if she was owned by anyone on here? HX53___ but would be interested to know her history.
    To be honest I wasn't looking at a smart, but she wasn't an MHD & it just felt right to buy her.

    Based on the fun we have had in the short time of ownership I can see us buying & trying another soon in which case I'll be begging to borrow my neighbours driveway.
    Based in Cambridgeshire, ...pootler

    As it isn't going to be used everyday I've invested in a CTEK battery connector & a 1.57 twin USB & battery voltage wot-not to take some guesswork out of keeping the battery healthy.

    Yes, I am keen on Electric smart if I can find one with a well kept battery for 2p per mile mooching, (compared to a typical 7p per mile minimum for a hybrid) the only downside being that if we went to Cambridge centre the best car park there (not central but affordable) has a 2 hour E.V. limit (general lack of council understanding of EV infrastructure & the fens). ..whereas if you took the more expensive busway route negating any savings you could eave an e.v hooked up on a charger all day, ..go figure
    Last edited by Mr Gus; 3rd January 2019 at 15:13. Reason: additional

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Welcome to Smart ownership.
    Enjoy your new wheels but a word of warning in case you were not aware.... watch the oil level like a hawk.


    The 450 engines have a nasty habit of consuming oil & burning exhaust valves leaving you needing a premature engine rebuild.


    You're lucky that, being in Cambs, you have a very good Smart specialist and engine rebuilder in your area - Fudgesmart in Newmarket.


    Otherwise - hope you have many happy years together!

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Thanks, will endeavour to do so, does it show up in the exhaust emissions or does it catch you unawares? ..I do know the local Garage had to drain some off, as it was overfilled & noted in the worksheet.

    How much time / miles to leave it between checks?

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Might be worth a compression test and take all plugs out and examine before you are to long in ownership and whilst you ( maybe ) could still take it back
    Steve

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Too late for that, but I trust my garage to tell me good / bad buy, its a very busy independent with locals from my village & thereabouts, I did pay them to give it a god going over, but they didn't blind me with mechanical science (as they know it's not my forte) unless I specifically ask.

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Yeah unless they're a smart specialist they won't know how to check for an engine closing in on rebuild though. They'll have just done the general mechanic checks of looking for leaks, checking fluid levels, checking brake linings, chassis etc.


    They almost certainly won't have done a compression test and as has been said, it's worth doing this.


    If you don't then check your oil every 500 miles or so for the first few months. Any sign of consumption is a bad sign. A healthy smart engine doesn't use any oil between services.

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Welcome!



    Good call on the Ctek charger. I use one on my Smart and the gear changes are much smoother and quicker when the battery has decent voltage.
    Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool....

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Thanks for the explanation, I'll give them a call & ask the car obsessed son (luckily), if it had a compression test & take it from there.they were busy doing restorative work on an insanely valuable MG the other day, in excess of 500k as I recall.

    What sort of results / figures am I looking for?
    New to Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Thanks, that s good to know, having wrestled once with the polystyrene lump I didn't want to be doing that again in a hurry, so it seemed logical (at a fiver) to make it simpler, I had a ctek lighter fitting as well but am yet to find a vehicle that likes it!

    Having a Mercedes with battery in the floor you get used to awkward access, wish more people would see the simple time saving logic of instant hook up for battery care (they aren't cheap after all).

    & 1.57 for the usb lightemonitor ..recommend that to anyone as an on start up advisory check.

    If I need to take it to Newmarket what sort of costs incurred / time down anticipated (speculatively)
    Cheers
    Last edited by Mr Gus; 5th January 2019 at 08:06.
    New to Smart (450 city coupe 0.7 pulse)
    E.V. Owner (Nissan leaf)
    E-Bike rider (lots of fun with knackered knees)
    17 snowboards (ish)
    Bitter drinker (not bitter)
    Cheapskate, Skateboarder,
    Old enough to know better.

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    Default Re: Hello, new (old) 450 model owner

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Gus View Post
    What sort of results / figures am I looking for?
    Its not so much the value, but the variance between cylinders (they should be within at least 10%, if not 5% of each other)
    Significantly difference will obviously highlight a problem cylinder.
    I seem to remember a figure of 12BAR though.
    Make sure they do a similar revolutions per cylinder check ... and kill ignition and fuelling.
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